Comments on: Sabotaging the “Telephone” game. http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/ A random schmuck mouthing off about the state of the world. Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:50:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Sethery http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-66 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:32:49 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-66 I guess I'm not blocked, but I can't post a couple of URLs. I'll try something else. Thought you might want to post about these under "Eliminationist Fantasies": <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3xvnbd" rel="nofollow">Neal Gabler jokes about Bill Kristol possibly dying in Iraq</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/32gsma" rel="nofollow">Even better, commentor calls for thermonuclear reboot of society.</a> I guess I’m not blocked, but I can’t post a couple of URLs. I’ll try something else.

Thought you might want to post about these under “Eliminationist Fantasies”:

Neal Gabler jokes about Bill Kristol possibly dying in Iraq

Even better, commentor calls for thermonuclear reboot of society.

]]> by: Sethery http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-65 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:28:39 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-65 Am I being blocked for spamming? 'Cuz that'd be pathetic. Am I being blocked for spamming? ‘Cuz that’d be pathetic.

]]> by: Sethery http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-63 Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:36:43 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-63 I did not follow <i>all</i> of your links, as there more of them than pepper grains on my morning eggs. I could tell by most of your excerpts that you were mostly picking individual posts from anonymous commentors on political blogs. You can't even validate the sincerity of those posts because they're anonymous! You act like someone who wants to peg the most outrageous statement you can find on an entire political party, even if it's from an anonymous individual. That thought process inspired me to avoid wasting time checking all of your other links. Regarding Neiwert, do you have any skepticism whatsoever about a single study with such skewed results posted by an avowed critic of the Right??? Or do you buy it completely because you like what it says? Finally, perhaps instead of alluding to what you "expect from Malkin", perhaps you could show where she actually <i>was</i> wrong and behaved as you did here, or worse. You tend to justify your words by alleging that others' are worse. That's not rational. I did not follow all of your links, as there more of them than pepper grains on my morning eggs. I could tell by most of your excerpts that you were mostly picking individual posts from anonymous commentors on political blogs. You can’t even validate the sincerity of those posts because they’re anonymous! You act like someone who wants to peg the most outrageous statement you can find on an entire political party, even if it’s from an anonymous individual. That thought process inspired me to avoid wasting time checking all of your other links.

Regarding Neiwert, do you have any skepticism whatsoever about a single study with such skewed results posted by an avowed critic of the Right??? Or do you buy it completely because you like what it says?

Finally, perhaps instead of alluding to what you “expect from Malkin”, perhaps you could show where she actually was wrong and behaved as you did here, or worse. You tend to justify your words by alleging that others’ are worse. That’s not rational.

]]> by: J. A. Baker http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-59 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:07:32 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-59 RJ - Your question was itself a "And so's your old man" comment. Those quotes, in addition to contradicting Michelle's "only libruls are incurably violent reprobates" nonsense, were also cited to point out that it wasn't just the left that bought into the "Randi Rhodes was mugged" reportage. Michelle acts like only the left jumped the gun when clearly the right was just as eager to use the story to feed their impulses. Also, many liberal blogs, like Shakespeare's Sister, along with liberal talk hosts (Stephanie Miller), were hesitant to run with the story until further details emerged. So it's not like EVERYONE on the left went tinfoil hat time, as Michelle claims. Seth - Did you even bother to follow the links? Just the anti-abortion violence stats alone show that it's more than "a dozen targets." And BTW, David Neiwert compiled a study of eliminationist rhetoric and violence in the 2004 election cycle (BOTH DIRECTIONS), and he found that conservative-on-liberal eliminationism far exceeded liberal-on-conservative eliminationism - by at least 3- or 4-to-1. And as I've said before, my "half-assed" mea culpa is FAR more than you can expect from the likes of Michelle Malkin. RJ - Your question was itself a “And so’s your old man” comment. Those quotes, in addition to contradicting Michelle’s “only libruls are incurably violent reprobates” nonsense, were also cited to point out that it wasn’t just the left that bought into the “Randi Rhodes was mugged” reportage. Michelle acts like only the left jumped the gun when clearly the right was just as eager to use the story to feed their impulses. Also, many liberal blogs, like Shakespeare’s Sister, along with liberal talk hosts (Stephanie Miller), were hesitant to run with the story until further details emerged. So it’s not like EVERYONE on the left went tinfoil hat time, as Michelle claims.

Seth - Did you even bother to follow the links? Just the anti-abortion violence stats alone show that it’s more than “a dozen targets.” And BTW, David Neiwert compiled a study of eliminationist rhetoric and violence in the 2004 election cycle (BOTH DIRECTIONS), and he found that conservative-on-liberal eliminationism far exceeded liberal-on-conservative eliminationism - by at least 3- or 4-to-1. And as I’ve said before, my “half-assed” mea culpa is FAR more than you can expect from the likes of Michelle Malkin.

]]> by: Sethery http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-57 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:32:36 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-57 This was one half-assed mea culpa. You spend <i>maybe</i> 5% of it actually admitting you were wrong, and the rest of it trying to explain why your conclusion-jumping was justified. And what is this "...right's history of violence"? If you're crusading against those on the right who have actually committed physical violence against somebody for political reasons, you'd have probably less than a dozen targets. You'd be better off tilting at windmils. And if violence-humor is your beef, that's not strictly a conservative phenomenon. Not by a longshot. I'll agree it's totally classless at its best, but the left does it just as well...including Randi Rhodes. This was one half-assed mea culpa. You spend maybe 5% of it actually admitting you were wrong, and the rest of it trying to explain why your conclusion-jumping was justified. And what is this “…right’s history of violence”? If you’re crusading against those on the right who have actually committed physical violence against somebody for political reasons, you’d have probably less than a dozen targets. You’d be better off tilting at windmils. And if violence-humor is your beef, that’s not strictly a conservative phenomenon. Not by a longshot. I’ll agree it’s totally classless at its best, but the left does it just as well…including Randi Rhodes.

]]> by: RJ1470 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-56 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:38:48 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-56 Troll? Ahh, so one asks a serious question, and you don't answer it? You'll note I never said that right wing folks don't post hateful comments. My point is, they come from both sides, and for either to throw them up like so many "And so's your old man" comments is lazy journalism. As for trolling, relax. The only reason I ever even heard of you, or your blog is because Michelle linked it. No one likes a troll, and since you feel that's what I am, I won't bother hanging where I'm not wanted. I'll leave you to the people who won't question you. Troll? Ahh, so one asks a serious question, and you don’t answer it? You’ll note I never said that right wing folks don’t post hateful comments. My point is, they come from both sides, and for either to throw them up like so many “And so’s your old man” comments is lazy journalism.

As for trolling, relax. The only reason I ever even heard of you, or your blog is because Michelle linked it.

No one likes a troll, and since you feel that’s what I am, I won’t bother hanging where I’m not wanted. I’ll leave you to the people who won’t question you.

]]> by: J. A. Baker http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-54 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:43:58 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-54 I dunno. It's kinda hard to get much worse than repeatedly calling for the violent deaths of people you don't like, as Ann, Michelle, Rush, Boortz and the rest have done. Secondly, Michelle has devoted a whole book-length screed to the ridiculous notion that ONLY liberals engage in eliminationist rhetoric, and that conservatives are perfect angels. The point of mentioning nasty comments by right-wingers is to poke holes in such patently ludicrous claims. As for the Klan reference, Michelle has repeatedly made racially-charged comments vis a vis Hispanic immigrants and Muslims. How am I supposed to refer to her, if not as a racist? I'm calling a spade a spade here. Michelle does Mea Culpas? Ha! That's a laugh. When she was told (repeatedly) that UC Santa Cruz students were getting death threats because she sicced her camp followers on them, does she say "Oh, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done that?" HELL NO. She gleefully resposts their contact information and sneers "Grow up." When her claims that the Frosts are welfare queens were debunked, does she issue a correction? HELL NO. She posts pictures of the cars they allegedly drive and again implies that they're "too rich" for S-CHIP. I can go on if you want. But then again, facts don't matter to you, do they? It's much easier to troll lefty blogs with right-wing talking points. Oh, and it's spelled "parroting." One t, two r's. I dunno. It’s kinda hard to get much worse than repeatedly calling for the violent deaths of people you don’t like, as Ann, Michelle, Rush, Boortz and the rest have done. Secondly, Michelle has devoted a whole book-length screed to the ridiculous notion that ONLY liberals engage in eliminationist rhetoric, and that conservatives are perfect angels. The point of mentioning nasty comments by right-wingers is to poke holes in such patently ludicrous claims.

As for the Klan reference, Michelle has repeatedly made racially-charged comments vis a vis Hispanic immigrants and Muslims. How am I supposed to refer to her, if not as a racist? I’m calling a spade a spade here.

Michelle does Mea Culpas? Ha! That’s a laugh. When she was told (repeatedly) that UC Santa Cruz students were getting death threats because she sicced her camp followers on them, does she say “Oh, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have done that?” HELL NO. She gleefully resposts their contact information and sneers “Grow up.” When her claims that the Frosts are welfare queens were debunked, does she issue a correction? HELL NO. She posts pictures of the cars they allegedly drive and again implies that they’re “too rich” for S-CHIP. I can go on if you want.

But then again, facts don’t matter to you, do they? It’s much easier to troll lefty blogs with right-wing talking points.

Oh, and it’s spelled “parroting.” One t, two r’s.

]]> by: RJ1470 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-53 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:01:52 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2007/10/16/sabotaging-the-telephone-game/#comment-53 Ok, serious comment time. Do you honestly think I couldn't go to ONE left wing site and not find worse comments about Michelle, Ann, and a host of others? Heck, you say Michelle's a clansman (person?) here, with all that implies. And I also guarantee that a 2 minute search would reveal corrctions, mea culpas, etc at Michelle's site. But checking something, rather than just spewing, would require some effort. Parotting left wing propaganda doesn't. Ok, serious comment time. Do you honestly think I couldn’t go to ONE left wing site and not find worse comments about Michelle, Ann, and a host of others? Heck, you say Michelle’s a clansman (person?) here, with all that implies. And I also guarantee that a 2 minute search would reveal corrctions, mea culpas, etc at Michelle’s site. But checking something, rather than just spewing, would require some effort. Parotting left wing propaganda doesn’t.

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