Comments on: ACORN Derangement Syndrome http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2008/10/08/acorn-derangement-syndrome/ A random schmuck mouthing off about the state of the world. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:28:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: J. A. Baker http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2008/10/08/acorn-derangement-syndrome/#comment-84 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:14:39 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2008/10/08/acorn-derangement-syndrome/#comment-84 True, it may not be close enough for voter fraud/suppression to matter, but still, it's the principle of the thing, you know? I'd much rather there be a clean election with no shenanigans on either side. And with that in mind, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27093919/" rel="nofollow">the recent report in the New York Times</a> (take the sourcing how you will) that a lot of innocent people are getting illegally thrown off the voter rolls is very worrying. It's something worth watching the next few weeks as we go to the polls. True, it may not be close enough for voter fraud/suppression to matter, but still, it’s the principle of the thing, you know? I’d much rather there be a clean election with no shenanigans on either side. And with that in mind, the recent report in the New York Times (take the sourcing how you will) that a lot of innocent people are getting illegally thrown off the voter rolls is very worrying. It’s something worth watching the next few weeks as we go to the polls.

]]> by: R.D. Baker http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2008/10/08/acorn-derangement-syndrome/#comment-83 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:43:25 +0100 http://jabberingstooge.blogsome.com/2008/10/08/acorn-derangement-syndrome/#comment-83 While I respect Paul Weyrich most times, I disagree that a Democratic victory in 2008 is due to high voter turnout or voter fraud. It's like 1932, 1976, and 1992, when the economy is bad, the Democrats make their biggest political gains. (Now, since they have control of everything, they're going to have 4 years to fix it with no excuses) Also, one of my biggest frustrations with my side this time, is that we have been fickle with McCain from the beginning. We're backing out on him again because of the bailout and because he wasn't forceful enough in the debates. I can understand the frustration because it was passed the second time with McCain's support and some of our side "voting against it before they voted for it" (grr) but that's no reason to sit on the sidelines. There's a lot of majority Republican districts that are still in Democratic hands that could swing back if we would just turn out and vote. But no, because we are doing exactly what Mr. Weyrich is suggesting here and lowering the turn out (by sitting out ourselves), we're going to find ourselves with a Dem president and a 60-40 Dem margin in the senate at least with no hope of blocking federal judge appointments. IIRC, (I don't have the numbers on hand, maybe you could look this up) but 2004 had a pretty high turnout and that was a Bush victory, right? Not that ACORN isn't a major story, voter fraud issues deserve serious attention no matter what side is doing it. But even if it's true this time, it's not really going to be close enough to matter. While I respect Paul Weyrich most times, I disagree that a Democratic victory in 2008 is due to high voter turnout or voter fraud. It’s like 1932, 1976, and 1992, when the economy is bad, the Democrats make their biggest political gains. (Now, since they have control of everything, they’re going to have 4 years to fix it with no excuses)

Also, one of my biggest frustrations with my side this time, is that we have been fickle with McCain from the beginning. We’re backing out on him again because of the bailout and because he wasn’t forceful enough in the debates. I can understand the frustration because it was passed the second time with McCain’s support and some of our side “voting against it before they voted for it” (grr) but that’s no reason to sit on the sidelines. There’s a lot of majority Republican districts that are still in Democratic hands that could swing back if we would just turn out and vote. But no, because we are doing exactly what Mr. Weyrich is suggesting here and lowering the turn out (by sitting out ourselves), we’re going to find ourselves with a Dem president and a 60-40 Dem margin in the senate at least with no hope of blocking federal judge appointments.

IIRC, (I don’t have the numbers on hand, maybe you could look this up) but 2004 had a pretty high turnout and that was a Bush victory, right?

Not that ACORN isn’t a major story, voter fraud issues deserve serious attention no matter what side is doing it. But even if it’s true this time, it’s not really going to be close enough to matter.

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